Tim, I agree and respectfully disagree with what you stated. The part that I agree with is the fact that Aunt Alexandria is just trying to help her family and preserve the family name. I think it is good because she cares what people think about her family and she doesn’t want to let down past generations. The reason I feel that Aunt Alexandria is kind of mean and bossy is, you can’t go into someone’s home and tell them what to do because it is disrespectful. I know I wouldn’t want someone coming into my house changing me. It is not fair to Scout what her aunt is doing because she is trying to change Scout to something she wasn’t meant to be because she thinks it is right. Finally, Aunt Alexandria is trying to be like a mother when she has no right to be. Scout and Jem have a great parent and role model in Atticus.
Jackie, when I read that quote I thought it was great too and I totally agree with what you are saying. This quotes shows that blacks and whites are the same, they just have a different skin color. Both blacks and whites discriminated each other and this quote shows us that if you think about it, neither skin color is better than the other. I wish the people of Maycomb would realize the message of this quote because they think they are superior to blacks and that blacks don’t deserve to live in the same place as them. Life on earth would be more peaceful if everyone just realized that we are all worshipping the same god and no matter what we look like, how we speak or what we wear we are all the same.
Comment 1: (Sarah Violante, Chapter 13, Paragraph 3) I definitely agree with you Sarah. Scout always seems to be seeking her father's approval and just doesn't want to disappoint him. I think that you're right about their relationship being a little more like a grandfather and his grandchildren rather than a father and his children because it's true that Atticus is a wise man with a lot of knowledge. However, I also have to disagree with this because although he may be a little old, I think that the children see him as a role model, or a father figure, rather than just a respected elder. I also agree with you, Lisdy, that Atticus has certain expectations of Scout and Jem and that they both think about what he would think before they act on something. My only question about this is that doesn't Aunt Alexandra have certain expectations of the children as well? She always expects them to act like a lady and a gentleman, while all Atticus expects is that they act polite and respectful towards their elders.
Comment 2: (Zach, Chapter 12, Page 165) I strongly feel that Scout is eventually going to get herself into big trouble by knowing these things about the trial and just the town in general. Although being observant and knowledgeable can be a good thing, it's also not always the best thing in certain situations. I feel that Scout is going to get herself in a situation at school or something like that and she's going to open her mouth and something's going to slip out that shouldn't. I also agree with your opinions on what happens when your parents or family are racist and that's who you're around for most of your life. I think that since Atticus believes in equality and tolerance of all people, Scout will really inherit those traits and opinions unless she learns otherwise. However, many of the children in town probably have negative views of black people because that's what their families and parents think of them. I also think it would be a positive experience for Scout to go home with Calpurnia, but I'm not sure that her neighbors and the people living around her would be very happy considering what happened at church.
Comment 3: (Alyssa, Chapter 13) I one hundred percent agree with you, Alyssa, because although Aunt Alexandra says that she's in Maycomb to help Atticus run the household and help him with the kids, it really seems like she just came back to Maycomb to hang out with her friends and the people that she never really sees. While I understand that she should be allowed to do this, and she is, she doesn't really seem to care about the kids whatsoever. All she has to say is how Scout should be more ladylike and Jem, more of a gentleman. Honestly, in my opinion, if being ladylike means having manners and being polite, Scout is doing fine. She's respectful, kind and thoughtful and I truly feel bad for her and even worse for Aunt Alexandra because she doesn't seem interested in Scout and what an incredible person she is or how smart she is. Aunt Alexandra really seems to only care about what other people think of Scout just because she's a Finch. She just wants her to look like a lady so she'll seem "normal" and be accepted in society. I really think that Aunt Alexandra is the one missing out, not Scout.
Comment 4: (Jared Torres, Chapter 12, Page 153) Jared, I really didn't even realize this until you pointed it out, but you're absolutely right. This book contains some of the same themes as Catcher In The Rye even though they were written in different time periods. I think it's incredible that just that one theme of not wanting to grow up can be present in two books and present day because it still happens every day. However, I think it's sort of sad that Jem really just ignores his little sister. I don't think it's fair of him to completely block her out, but I doubt he's doing it purposely. I think that Scout was just so used to hanging out with him all the time and when it suddenly stopped, she was a little shocked. She really just misses her brother. I also don't think that Scout is necessarily afraid of growing up, I'm just not sure she completely understands it. Sarah, I both agree and disagree with your statement about Atticus. I don't think that he's sheltering her, I just think that it didn't really occur to him to tell them because he didn't think it was important. It also didn't seem like it was something he was very proud of because he doesn't really like to kill other creatures that can't help themselves. But, I do think he wants to keep his little girl innocent and protected
Chapter 12 page 167, “It’s not necessary to tell all you know. It’s not ladylike – in the second place, folks don’t like to have somebody around knowin’ more than they do. It aggravates ‘em. You’re not gonna change any of them by talkin’ right, they’ve got to want to learn themselves, and when they don’t want to learn there’s nothing you can do but keep your mouth shut or talk their language.” I think this quote explains Calipurnia's understanding of different kinds of people. The fact that Cal talks proper in the Finch home proves that she has class, and cares about the way that she is perceived. She also shows respect for the people at her church by talking like they do. She also sets an example for Scout by telling her what is ladylike.
ch. 12 p. 167: “It’s not necessary to tell all you know. It’s not ladylike – in the second place, folks don’t like to have somebody around knowin’ more than they do. It aggravates ‘em. You’re not gonna change any of them by talkin’ right, they’ve got to want to learn themselves, and when they don’t want to learn there’s nothing you can do but keep your mouth shut or talk their language.” To me, this quote shows how Calpurnia knows that people are different from each other. In the Finch's home, she talks without colloquial language to prove that she is educated and not just some cook. However, she talks differently in church in order to blend in with the others. She is also able to set an example for Scout by teaching her ladylike manners.
Tim, I agree and respectfully disagree with what you stated. The part that I agree with is the fact that Aunt Alexandria is just trying to help her family and preserve the family name. I think it is good because she cares what people think about her family and she doesn’t want to let down past generations. The reason I feel that Aunt Alexandria is kind of mean and bossy is, you can’t go into someone’s home and tell them what to do because it is disrespectful. I know I wouldn’t want someone coming into my house changing me. It is not fair to Scout what her aunt is doing because she is trying to change Scout to something she wasn’t meant to be because she thinks it is right. Finally, Aunt Alexandria is trying to be like a mother when she has no right to be. Scout and Jem have a great parent and role model in Atticus.
ReplyDeleteJackie, when I read that quote I thought it was great too and I totally agree with what you are saying. This quotes shows that blacks and whites are the same, they just have a different skin color. Both blacks and whites discriminated each other and this quote shows us that if you think about it, neither skin color is better than the other. I wish the people of Maycomb would realize the message of this quote because they think they are superior to blacks and that blacks don’t deserve to live in the same place as them. Life on earth would be more peaceful if everyone just realized that we are all worshipping the same god and no matter what we look like, how we speak or what we wear we are all the same.
ReplyDeleteComment 1: (Sarah Violante, Chapter 13, Paragraph 3) I definitely agree with you Sarah. Scout always seems to be seeking her father's approval and just doesn't want to disappoint him. I think that you're right about their relationship being a little more like a grandfather and his grandchildren rather than a father and his children because it's true that Atticus is a wise man with a lot of knowledge. However, I also have to disagree with this because although he may be a little old, I think that the children see him as a role model, or a father figure, rather than just a respected elder. I also agree with you, Lisdy, that Atticus has certain expectations of Scout and Jem and that they both think about what he would think before they act on something. My only question about this is that doesn't Aunt Alexandra have certain expectations of the children as well? She always expects them to act like a lady and a gentleman, while all Atticus expects is that they act polite and respectful towards their elders.
ReplyDeleteComment 2: (Zach, Chapter 12, Page 165) I strongly feel that Scout is eventually going to get herself into big trouble by knowing these things about the trial and just the town in general. Although being observant and knowledgeable can be a good thing, it's also not always the best thing in certain situations. I feel that Scout is going to get herself in a situation at school or something like that and she's going to open her mouth and something's going to slip out that shouldn't. I also agree with your opinions on what happens when your parents or family are racist and that's who you're around for most of your life. I think that since Atticus believes in equality and tolerance of all people, Scout will really inherit those traits and opinions unless she learns otherwise. However, many of the children in town probably have negative views of black people because that's what their families and parents think of them. I also think it would be a positive experience for Scout to go home with Calpurnia, but I'm not sure that her neighbors and the people living around her would be very happy considering what happened at church.
Comment 3: (Alyssa, Chapter 13) I one hundred percent agree with you, Alyssa, because although Aunt Alexandra says that she's in Maycomb to help Atticus run the household and help him with the kids, it really seems like she just came back to Maycomb to hang out with her friends and the people that she never really sees. While I understand that she should be allowed to do this, and she is, she doesn't really seem to care about the kids whatsoever. All she has to say is how Scout should be more ladylike and Jem, more of a gentleman. Honestly, in my opinion, if being ladylike means having manners and being polite, Scout is doing fine. She's respectful, kind and thoughtful and I truly feel bad for her and even worse for Aunt Alexandra because she doesn't seem interested in Scout and what an incredible person she is or how smart she is. Aunt Alexandra really seems to only care about what other people think of Scout just because she's a Finch. She just wants her to look like a lady so she'll seem "normal" and be accepted in society. I really think that Aunt Alexandra is the one missing out, not Scout.
ReplyDeleteComment 4: (Jared Torres, Chapter 12, Page 153) Jared, I really didn't even realize this until you pointed it out, but you're absolutely right. This book contains some of the same themes as Catcher In The Rye even though they were written in different time periods. I think it's incredible that just that one theme of not wanting to grow up can be present in two books and present day because it still happens every day. However, I think it's sort of sad that Jem really just ignores his little sister. I don't think it's fair of him to completely block her out, but I doubt he's doing it purposely. I think that Scout was just so used to hanging out with him all the time and when it suddenly stopped, she was a little shocked. She really just misses her brother. I also don't think that Scout is necessarily afraid of growing up, I'm just not sure she completely understands it. Sarah, I both agree and disagree with your statement about Atticus. I don't think that he's sheltering her, I just think that it didn't really occur to him to tell them because he didn't think it was important. It also didn't seem like it was something he was very proud of because he doesn't really like to kill other creatures that can't help themselves. But, I do think he wants to keep his little girl innocent and protected
Chapter 12 page 167, “It’s not necessary to tell all you know. It’s not ladylike – in the second place, folks don’t like to have somebody around knowin’ more than they do. It aggravates ‘em. You’re not gonna change any of them by talkin’ right, they’ve got to want to learn themselves, and when they don’t want to learn there’s nothing you can do but keep your mouth shut or talk their language.” I think this quote explains Calipurnia's understanding of different kinds of people. The fact that Cal talks proper in the Finch home proves that she has class, and cares about the way that she is perceived. She also shows respect for the people at her church by talking like they do. She also sets an example for Scout by telling her what is ladylike.
ReplyDeletech. 12 p. 167: “It’s not necessary to tell all you know. It’s not ladylike – in the second place, folks don’t like to have somebody around knowin’ more than they do. It aggravates ‘em. You’re not gonna change any of them by talkin’ right, they’ve got to want to learn themselves, and when they don’t want to learn there’s nothing you can do but keep your mouth shut or talk their language.” To me, this quote shows how Calpurnia knows that people are different from each other. In the Finch's home, she talks without colloquial language to prove that she is educated and not just some cook. However, she talks differently in church in order to blend in with the others. She is also able to set an example for Scout by teaching her ladylike manners.
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